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Poster: Judge TOOTMO Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Unwritten forum rules

D.Russ,

This Forum is a funny place when it comes to bashin'.

Bobby: there are a certain number of Bobby digs that are allowed before Bobby's defenders will appear and rally to defend his honor. (The exact number is unknown to all save for the B.D's.)

You may make derogatory remarks about Jerry as long as they are about his weight, drug habits, hygiene, etc. Any derogations must immediately be followed with praise for his musicianship-ness.

I don't think I have ever seen anything bad written about Phil and I am not sure what one would bitch about.

Keyboard players--open season (though you will meet some resistance from the Pig-lovers.)

Okay to bash Mickey; definitely not Billy. It's also kosher to say "Mickey really muddles the sound---listen to Billy driving that train in Europe during '72."

These are the unwritten rules that I have absorbed. I'm sure others can add (or disagree.)

TOOTMO

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Poster: yesss! Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

i think somebody once complained about donna too.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Sep 15, 2009 3:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

"i think somebody once complained about donna too."

Yeah, me and everyone else during her "Playin'" wailing and several other songs. She sounds like she's trying to do the filler background vocals on The Stones "Gimme Shelter".

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Sep 15, 2009 9:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Donna shrieked a lot in 72-74. But post-hiatus she was more often angelic in her vocal styling than not.

And even though she may have shrieked like a rabbit falling prey to a coyote in the N. Michigan woods during many PITB, I still like her.

And judging from the audience tapes I've heard pre-hiatus, the audience also liked it. Notice the eruption of applause right when she begins to howl?

As far as the collective mental state of the forum readers, I can only speak for myself and I will say that I procrastinate doing homework or skip school and end up spending a good chunk of time daily to read all your nutty ramblings. Thanks for the laughs guys :)

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

bashin' Bobby

Arbuthnot-Bobby___Nude_Deadhead.jpg

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

I'm looking for this pic I took of Bob where in the middle of a jam he's ckeckin his watch. When I find I'll def post

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Poster: verylazylightning Date: Sep 15, 2009 5:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

So why is this photo Bobby-bashing? I must be missing something - unless it's politically incorrect to have naked women in photos of the Dead performing? Naw, can't be that,
in the old days every concert had dozens of naked gals. Good times, good times.
I am the most dedicated Bobby fan around, as long as it's
in the context of the Grateful Dead. Without Phil or Jerry
to babysit (bobbysit?), his abilities decline from phenomenal to (occasionally) amateur-level.
In regards to looking at his watch, it's understandable.
Remember, what was a Dead show to us was a day job to these
guys, and the literature is full of candid remarks by all members of the band of numerous occasions when the last thing they wanted to do was to get their ass on stage and
blast away for four hours. As Jerry once famously remarked,
"No matter how transcendant the music, you were always aware
when your feet hurt like hell." That's a close paraphrase,
but the meaning's intact.
During the first Tampa '77 show Jerry made no bones about
not wanting to be there. He pouted and stamped and wore
an expression of supreme boredom and impatience the whole
show. He even stopped playing during extended periods just
to point at various people in the crowd. Strangely, it was
still a fair-to-middling show. They came back later in the
year to the same venue (pretty unique for Florida tours) and
played a killer show - I always wondered if that was some
sort of make-up effort.
Phil during the 83-85 period, despite many excellent shows,
telephoned in many shows. He couldn't have looked more detached, his body language and facial expression was consciously dismissive and his playing was minimalist on many occasions (although there were other times when he was front and center). This lackadaisical attitude eventually promptedan interviewer to ask Jerry if Phil's role in the band was declining. Garcia was politely evasive.
Even I could get bored and disaffected during fine shows.
Also, in a very large percentage of venues they have a fixed
time when they have to get off stage. In the years before
the earpods, they would have had to resort to watches to
determine how much time was left.
My favorite Dead Ennui event of all time was a truly
abysmal Oakland show some time around '86. They really didn't seem to give a damn, and as the post-Drums segment
drew to a close not only did no-one show onstage as the
drummers departed but a very lengthy silence ensued. Finally, a flustered Bobby ran distractedly on to the stage,
completely running past his guitar forcing him to retrace
his footsteps to his position. It really look like a bunch of roadies had physically flung him on stage against his will.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

Minor correction....
They didn't play Tampa in 1977. You must be thinking of 1978 - they played there on 4/6/78 and 12/13/78.
What's interesting is that 4/6/78 was the first show of the tour. Must've caught Jerry off-guard....

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Poster: Stealz Date: Sep 16, 2009 6:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

If this hasn't been one of the all-time threads...

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 16, 2009 7:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

All it needs is a . . . .



where's Ducats when you need him



Blow Me

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

Dude relax I'm the biggest fan of Bob , My guess why DH Monte posted the photo of Bob and the girl (just a guess)would be his expression, Grate Photo by the way DH Monte.
As far as checking his watch on this one well I thouhgt it was funny as well .
I was having a grate time and clicking pics and just happened to catch him looking at his watch. Read into what you want.

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

You had me so busy explaining myself forgot the pic



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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

OMG, H! That is too much!!!

WTF?!? Is he checking in like it's a metronome or some such? "Hmmm, if I can get that lawsuit filed against Dire and the Forumites by 8 pm, I'll eliminate the illegal downloading, increasing my investments by..."

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 7:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

Maybe Wasserman and the horn are only allowed only allowed to expand the jam by increments of no more than 1.5 mins tops

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

You had me so buzy explaining myself I forgot the pic

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

The 2x post was unintended Peace

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Poster: skies Date: Sep 16, 2009 7:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

These two on this photo looklike total idiots !Bobby with a sleazy grin a chick whacking her jaws with lunatics eyes !But the GD band wised up long ago ,blasé to all they had to see at shows !

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Poster: verylazylightning Date: Sep 16, 2009 4:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!


(yes, thanks, it was the early '78 Tampa show, not '77)

That photo of Bobby with the watch is hilarious. He looks
like a harried business executive checking his flight time
at the airport.
I dunno, maybe his beeper went off accidentally and he
didn't want the voice mike picking it up. If he has a Casio
guitar, he can certainly have a Casio watch.
On the other hand...when Coltrane was a member of Miles'
band, he used to take extraordinary liberties with his
solos. Miles would grow increasingly impatient, mugging
with the crowd and glowering at Coltrane. When Coltrane
would finally wind down, Miles would say; "Next time, perhaps we can have twenty-six courses instead of twenty-seven?" Coltrane took it well, but never stopped hogging
the solos.
During the 1980 Lakeland, Fla., show I was literally
inches in front of Garcia. I recall he was wearing a
collared shirt for some reason. Right in the middle of
'To Lay Me Down', he coughed up this enormous loogie which
landed smack dap on top of his guitar and ran down the face of it. It was extremely
visible to everyone within 20-foot range, and he really
didn't have the option to remove it until during the drum
solo. I was tripping heavily, and was alternatively grossed
out and lmao.
BTW, this was a fine, fine show. Consider the 2nd set
pre-drums: Stranger, To Lay Me Down, Let It Grow, Terrapin'.
That is mixing it up!!!

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Sep 16, 2009 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

now thats a hard core story lightning!!! in the strangest of places' that 80;s lakeland is one of my fav'shows>> http://www.archive.org/details/gd1980-11-29.nak700.wagner.miller.90104.sbeok.flac16 enjoy!!oops wrong link lakeland was th 28th>>>http://www.archive.org/details/gd1980-11-28.nak700.wagner.miller.90013.sbeok.flac16

This post was modified by whirlwind dreamer 65-95 on 2009-09-17 00:04:41

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Poster: verylazylightning Date: Sep 16, 2009 6:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

Yeah! I had just finished listening to the 1980 Lakeland Show when I logged in to the Bobby-bash thread, saw the
wrong link and said "of course, time to listen to this" and
off I happily went.

"Sometimes you get show the light in the strangest of
places if you look at it right..."

This Gainesville show has a huge reputation, and
deservedly so. The acoustics at the Alley are horrendous
(it was the old basketball court) but the Dead rose
above it all with a really punchy, hard-charging sound.
They had far less luck with the Miami show preceding Lakeland; the Sportatorium just brutalizes the best P.A.
Then it was on to the fabled Fox in Georgia, where they played two very respectable but laid-back shows under extremely clean acoustic conditions.

I attended this entire series of shows and couldn't have
been happier. Jerry was still quite fit and active, Bobby
was actually a young man, and the sound system at that
time had a very lean, high-torque, chromatic quality with
an emphasis on pure clarity that was absent from the fatter,
lusher, full-bodied tone of the eighties sound system. It's
interesting to note that they had retreated from this voluptuous, rich sound signature by the very early nineties,
when they reverted to a squeaky-clean, pin-sharp, almost
clinical tonal signature. I'm probably in the minority,
but I always preferred a really hard-edged, ultra-precise
acoustic image in contrast to the warmer, more diffuse
sound picture. I'm no sound engineer (to say the least), but I've heard repeatedly over the years that the Meyer
sound system was responsible for that really keen, distinct
quality.

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Poster: Dan Russ Date: Sep 16, 2009 5:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

thanks for the wrong link - I hadn’t heard this show
11/29/80 Alligator Alley before

and there you have it – the beauty of this place at our fingertips


Shakedown into Franklin’s I never imagined – apparently only carried out on this one occasion.

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Sep 16, 2009 5:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: for HARD-CORE Bobby-bashers Only!

yea mon!! i really enjoy this place also. great music and great people!!!what else doe's the world need?? i seem to stumble upon shows myself sometimes (pun intended!! :)) enjoy dan!! wwd

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Poster: Dan Russ Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Thanks for the kind words of warning TOOTMO. I assume you’re just giving a heads up to a brother, as it must have seemed possible to you from my words in the LL/Sup thread that I may be prone towards this type of unaccepted behavior. I don’t need to know the technical details – ie: are these “digs” counted within each post, or accumulated over separate posts? Ha! For the record I was trying to be humorously honest. I think in my disclaimer regarding that thread I was trying to lay this out - that being on tour, night after night (oh how sweet it was) it was nice to hear something different and I was complimenting the song, no?

I love Bob and he holds a cherished place with me as a very talented member of the greatest musical group in history. Of course, I never sat in the first row. (just kidding – is my quota used up now? ) Contributing to this forum is quite a new experience for me. Thanks for your forbearance. I love you guys. Shit, I even love Brent.

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Poster: Judge TOOTMO Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Can you say that about Vince?

Doc, your prior comment got me to thinking about what the "norms" (if that term can be used for this group)are for our little corner of the web. I just thought I would list them and see if what I thought they were was similar to what others thought. Case in point: Phil's singing---didn't even think about it cause I don't hang out much where that happens.

I'm a taker here---there's not much that I can teach these boys (and girl). I try to spread what I learn here with others of the like-mind. As techno-tarded as I am, I am always surprised how many heads have NO idea that these shows are here.

You seem like a nice guy--welcome. Of course, if you start talking funny, we will have to get rid of you ,NAH?

TOOTMO

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Poster: Dan Russ Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:08pm
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Feels good to be here, thanks. I do get a little paranoid trying to post, wary of why I’m saying something in the first place, and the way things can go south at the drop of a .....

Vince? Can’t offer much there; while I still saw many shows after Brent passed, it was Jerry that called. My life was in a weird process of falling apart and coming together during those years. I couldn’t tell you the last time I listened to a 90s show.

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Poster: banditos33 Date: Sep 15, 2009 3:43pm
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Dont worry.I sit on the sidelines alot and read this forum and post when compelled by Skies to remind him that the French are chicken shit. This place is like a who"s-who of mental illness.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:06pm
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Well, I think you're one of the Good Guys...unless of course you were refering to my mental state.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:16pm
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"Who's who of mental illness"

hahahahhahahahah

Maybe we should change the name of the Forum

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:14pm
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"I do get a little paranoid trying to post, wary of why I’m saying something in the first place, and the way things can go south at the drop of a ....."


this thinking has never stopped the rest of us ;)

i mean, take a look at Tell's posts.... talk about a bunch of moronic, overly-grandiose, claptrap!! :)

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules - Hey Now !!



Easy on the PM there brother Dire, lest we discuss certain bovine transgressions . . .

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:27pm
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trying to repay some digs while he is not looking ;)


(does the PM stand for pre-menstrual when in comes to our dear friend?? just asking)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules - Hey Now !!

Why I outta...well, okay...I guess it's fair...I am always taking cheap shots at you, but then, you are usually looking.

But, how could I have anything but respect for the guy that introduced me to Frau Stripes?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:01pm
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Thanks! For that, you no doubt will receive a place in the exalted Forum Cabinet...

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules - Hey Now !!

No Problem

http://rlv.zcache.com/weir_wears_short_shorts_ladies_version_tshirt-p235914795097217636ca2c_400.jpg

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:09pm
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You do know that is Miss D modeling that shirt, right?

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:11pm
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Awesome, Has she succumb to your Prime Ministerial Charms yet?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:23pm
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Alas, I think she is too fine a lady to succumb just yet...perhaps the complete inventory of 68 will do the trick; I'd hate to rely solely on my supposed PM charm, right?

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:11pm
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That's a great shirt, but I'd be stretching the second line out a bit more than the gal in the picture....she's sadly less-endowed.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 16, 2009 7:55am
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Thanks once again for tolerating my drivel...as for the other, all I can say is no doubt looks much better on you than me, which is as it should be.

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Poster: Dan Russ Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:21pm
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truth and humor often compliment each other!

one more one day at a time ? I raise my (empty) glass to you dire!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:28pm
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so true, so true my friend


(and yes, one more one day at a time for the big 365 - assuming this isnt a leap-year or something.)

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 15, 2009 3:32pm
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Congratulations, dire! This is a huge moment. And believe what they tell you - the first year is the hardest. Which isn't to say that you should drop your guard or anything, but aside from the occasional irrational urge, it does get easier the more time you have. Eventually you hardly ever think about it.

I had my last drink July 16, 1986 at the ripe old age of 23, and aside from a couple of horrible times during a particularly horrible relationship, I have never missed it.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:53pm
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thank you fenario - very much appreciated. and congrats to you as well - 13 years!! you are most certainly an inspiration for me!!

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 16, 2009 7:11am
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Happy Birthday!

(No biggie, because this isn't about me, but it is actually just past 23 years - which means that sometime in the next six months or so I'll pass a point where I've lived more years SINCE I got sober than I did BEFORE I got sober, THAT blows my mind ... )

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 16, 2009 9:25am
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thank you so much :) i cant believe it has been a year. and even better, one year ago today, i met my beautiful wife!! life is sooooo much better than last year at this time (hitting yet ANOTHER rehab - lol).

so happy for you also fenario!!! life is indeed a wonderful thing without booze!!

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 16, 2009 11:34am
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If nothing else, you've no doubt seen that I can be just as rude, abrasive and dumb-headed as any other idiot on here. It's not about perfection, but the acceptance of non-perfection.

I think it's awesome - and a total trip - that you met your wife the day you got sober, and I love how EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US breaks that unritten rule about no relationships in the first year. You can't learn to operate a car just by reading the owner's manual ...

I'm feeling a lot of love for you today, dire - I hope you & the Mrs. dire do something special to celebrate.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 16, 2009 12:06pm
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thanks man, and Mrs. Dire says thanks too!! my first several attempts, i went along with the "no big changes, no relationships, blah blah blah." that just sent me back to detox and rehabs - lol. figured i'd try a different approach and actually try to be happy. like "they" say, insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. well, so far anyways, going against the grain of the "AA rules" has worked out better than any other approach I have tried. I never had more than 60 days under my belt before a disastrous turn for the worse. it is amazing how a little happiness, great supportive people, wonderful kids, and a beautiful, smart, loving (sober) wife can do for sobriety.

thank you for all your kind words!!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Sep 16, 2009 9:51am
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Talking about unwritten, I haven't forgotten that I promised to email you, and I will! But meantime, know that it means a lot to me that you've come so far. Congratulations on your first anniversary and best wishes for many more anniversaries to come.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 16, 2009 12:04pm
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thank you very much Rob, that means alot to me. i hope things are going ok for you!!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 16, 2009 9:30am
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Did skys just call Dire a smart Deadhead?

Nah, s/he must have been referring to Fenario.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 16, 2009 12:03pm
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yeah, i too was thinking that could not have been possible :)

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Poster: skies Date: Sep 16, 2009 7:19am
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Now I'll drink my carrot juice glad to know smart deadheads stopped alcohol !I stopped cigarettes 10 years ago and now I certainly have more peachy color cheeks than a decade ago !And i never missed tobacco stinking smell either !

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:14pm
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That's great Dire!! It only gets better!!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:09pm
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Good deal D!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:55pm
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thank you old friend :)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:07pm
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You can't be serious...re: posting paranoia...as Dire says, "just buck up and spew" like the rest of us.

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Poster: Dan Russ Date: Sep 15, 2009 5:21pm
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yeah your right; I'll save it for the therapist, and get down to the more serious business of continued GD appreciation!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:24pm
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Excellent! Besides, we need all the help we can get!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:00pm
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Ah, it's good to see you accept my Lady in Waiting is exactly that...

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:00pm
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Well I for one admire for you for coming out as part of the minority of disenfranchised Brent fans. Say, check out his playing on the Deep Elem Blues here:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-03-09.sbd.clugston.4953.sbeok.shnf

He's chooglin' his way thru the whole damn song, and it cooks!

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:09pm
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Check out the mad scientist synth-guitar solo on Minglewood, too. Whatever drugs Brent was on at the time, this is one night he got the mix just exactly perfect!

Ps I always enjoyed Brent's playing and backing vocals. It was his songs that I mostly didn't like.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:27pm
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"It was his songs that I mostly didn't like."

That nails it. I think he reinvigorated the band for the first few years, took over at times in some of the junk fog years, and the interaction between him and Jer was a much needed second (or fourth wind) come '89. His death was the end of the GD for me (just me - rest of you can have your moments), although JGB was a hell of a lot of fun during those remaining years (although venues got a bit ridiculous).

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 15, 2009 5:53pm
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I'm kind of with you there. I probably wouldn't listen to anything post-Brent if it wasn't for Bruce, and Branford, and Ornette. They had some great guests in the 90's.

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Good one - that solo IS pretty "far out"!

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Poster: angular Date: Sep 15, 2009 3:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

The Grateful Dead proved that the rules are: There are no rules"

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:06pm
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Just don't piss off skies...on the other hand...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

"I don't think I have ever seen anything bad written about Phil and I am not sure what one would bitch about. "




you HAVE heard him sing, havent you??

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Man, here i was thinking i'd bitched A LOT about Phil's singing- guess I didn't do it enough. "Let Phil sing?" how about "Make Phil stop!"

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Sep 15, 2009 6:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

They went 700+ shows in a row without a Box of Rain, but let him sing Wave to the Wind more than once??????

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:23pm
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lmao!!

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Poster: buscameby Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:27pm
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rflmao,

and we still begged him to do it again and again.

and now he won't stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Turn Phil Up!!!

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

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Phil-power is pumped

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

and

3 cheers for Billy

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Billy's lit like a xmas tree :-P

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Poster: amosearle Date: Nov 4, 2009 6:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Looks like he's pitchin' a wang dang doodle...

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Notice he and the Skull & Roses shirt he's wearing have the same hairstyle?

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:47pm
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Phil rockin a Nudie suit? Sweet, who woulda thought.

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 15, 2009 9:04pm
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I liked those "Nudie" cowboy outfits! Too bad they only wore them a time or two.

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 15, 2009 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

Lookin at Jerry in that my jaw just hit the floor !
Never seen those pics before Thanx

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:12pm
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One more Jerry pic for ya then..

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Sep 16, 2009 7:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

more Cowboy songs

here's a fun traditional tune every cowboy band has played

Sittin' on Top of The World — GD (no Donna) at The Music Box, Omaha, 1969

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 4:23pm
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Nice . . . thanks DH Monte

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:49pm
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And don't forget who's in charge...

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Poster: wineland Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:14pm
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I challenge Team Bobby to defend the short shorts.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:02pm
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Much to my utter dismay my favorite Bob clip is gone

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=167596

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Poster: gmarks Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

can't defend the short shorts but i need to admit i bought a purple polo cause of him...anyway this relates to a recent Sugar Mag post too, i came cross this show from Europe 72 today http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-05-11.sbd.ashley-bertha.7364.sbefail.shnf, and damned if i dont think its my fave SM of all time, or 'sick' as the kids say i think, thx.

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Poster: wineland Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:40pm
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I cut my teeth on Europe 72 from a taped record my uncle gave me. The sound they have at that point in time is how they should sound to my ears. Of course since then I have fallen in love with almost every other era at certain points of my life. But getting back to that Euro72 sound is like coming home. Thanks for the suggestion... it was, um, sick.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

You think Bobby's shorts are bad, check out Bon Scott of AC/DC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30JwQ9XzKjg

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Poster: wineland Date: Sep 15, 2009 5:02pm
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Looks like Bon is a grape smuggler.

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Poster: banditos33 Date: Sep 15, 2009 3:51pm
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Bon was hell. Rest his soul

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: who wears short shorts? and why?

the PERFECT thing during a hot jam is a cool breeze on your scrote!

those red rocks shows just wouldn't have been as good if Bob wasn't sporting the short shorts...

plus, ya gotta hit new lows to hit new highs ;)

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 15, 2009 10:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who wears short shorts? and why?

At least Bobby could get away with wearing shorts... geez, did you see or have you seen pictures of Phil and/or Jerry in shorts?? There is one of the View From The Vault videos that I will not watch just for that reason... all three were in shorts. I'm sure it was a hot day and all, but it's not a pretty sight.

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Sep 16, 2009 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who wears short shorts? and why?

Too funny! You hit upon something that resonates with me. Even though the GD are about as far away from a pretty boy rock band as you can get, at some level I guess we still want them to look cool, or at least not lame. Vanity, vanity, all is vanity. Whether we like to admit it or not, it permeates alot of how we see the world. Speaking of which, the shirt I'm wearing today makes my belly look too big!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 16, 2009 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: who wears short shorts? and why?

I wear my trousers rolled...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 16, 2009 10:56am
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My pants are feeling better and better closer and closer to my chest hair which is hairer and I hope Miss D ain't reading this cause I think I just described my HS physics teacher that we all mocked for having his beltline at his nipples...

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

whats up wine!! looks to me like lots of heads at english town 77 had the short shorts styling lol:) guess bobby couldnt trade his in!!!lol :)http://www.photog.com/gdead/70s/77/09-03/index.html

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Poster: wineland Date: Sep 15, 2009 1:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Unwritten forum rules

WWD, good to see you again. I have no room to talk. My cousin recently sent me this pic on my bday. Yes, that's me in my madras shirt and white short shorts. Good Lord, fashions can be so cool at the time, but give them a few years and... yeesh.

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Poster: edgehead 2 Date: Sep 15, 2009 2:48pm
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"It was the style at the time" (ala Abe Simpson)

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Poster: wineland Date: Sep 15, 2009 5:03pm
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Thank goodness the other Simpson took up the short shorts fad. Jessica, not Marge.